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Special Crikey Morgan Poll: Hicks Should Be Returned To Australia Immediately - 64% Want Australian Forces Returned From Iraq

Finding No. 4140 - February 20, 2007

A special telephone Crikey Morgan Poll, conducted in Bennelong (February 14/15) and released today on Crikey.com.au finds:

• A majority (62%) think Mr Howard and the Australian Government should ask the American Government to have David Hicks immediately returned to Australia, while 31% say Hicks should remain in US custody to face trial.
• If Hicks is found guilty of the proposed charges against him, 69% say he should be allowed to serve his sentence in Australia (23% say he should not be allowed).
• 64% want Australia’s Iraq forces brought home compared to 29% who say they should continue fighting in Iraq.
• 63% say Prime Minister John Howard was wrong in saying that a victory at next year’s US election by Senator Barack Obama would be welcomed by terrorists because of his plan to withdraw American troops out of Iraq — just 27% say Mr Howard was right.
• 59% disagree with the Government’s industrial relations reforms (only 26% agree).
• A strong majority (67%) say the Federal Government should take control of Australia’s water resources (23% disagree).

Gary Morgan says:

“Prime Minister Howard needs to personally tell US Vice-President Dick Cheney later this week that Hicks must be returned to Australia immediately with formal charges laid — otherwise the case must be dropped.

“A majority of Bennelong electors think the Government should ask the Americans to have David Hicks returned immediately (62%) and 64% want Australia’s Iraq forces brought home. Domestically, 59% disagree with the Government’s industrial relations reforms.

“Mr Howard’s lacklustre result in yesterday’s Crikey Morgan Poll can in part be attributed to discontent from Bennelong electors on a number of issues: David Hicks, Iraq, IR.

“If voters remain on issues such as Hicks, Iraq and IR, Mr Howard may not only find it difficult to win this year’s Federal Election, he may also have trouble winning his own seat of Bennelong!

“Positively for Mr Howard, his policy to take over control of Australia’s water resources from the states is looked upon favourably — 67% say the Federal Government should have control. Also, as reported yesterday, more electors in Bennelong think the L-NP will win the election than those who think the ALP will win (46% cf. 38%).”

David Hicks

Respondents were told: “Australian terror suspect David Hicks has been imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay for more than five years and is still yet to be formally charged with any offence. American authorities have said they intend to charge David Hicks with attempted murder and offering support for terrorism.”

They were firstly asked: “Do you think Mr Howard and the Australian Government should ask the American Government to have David Hicks returned to Australia immediately, or should he remain in American custody to face trial?”


 

Bennelong

Analysis by Federal Voting Intention

 

Feb 14/15

The

Ind/

 

2007

Liberal

ALP

Greens#

Other#

 

%

%

%

%

%

Government should ask to have Hicks returned immediately

62

40

76

92

65

Should remain in American custody to face trial

31

51

19

2

26

Can't say

7

9

5

6

9

Total

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

 

Bennelong

Analysis by Sex & Age

 

Feb 14/15

 

2007

Men

Women

18-24#

25-34

35-49

50+

 

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

Government should ask to have Hicks returned immediately

62

65

60

66

70

67

56

Should remain in American custody to face trial

31

32

29

26

25

23

38

Can't say

7

3

11

8

5

10

6

Total

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

They were then asked: “If David Hicks is found guilty of the proposed charges, should he be allowed to serve his sentence in Australia, or not?”

 

Bennelong

Analysis by Federal Voting Intention

 

Feb 14/15

The

Ind/

 

2007

Liberal

ALP

Greens#

Other#

 

%

%

%

%

%

Should be allowed to serve sentence in Australia

69

55

78

87

72

Should not be allowed to serve sentence in Australia

23

34

15

9

22

Can't say

8

11

7

4

6

Total

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

 

Bennelong

Analysis by Sex & Age

 

Feb 14/15

           
 

2007

Men

Women

18-24#

25-34

35-49

50+

 

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

Should be allowed to serve sentence in Australia

69

71

68

75

72

75

63

Should not be allowed to serve sentence in Australia

23

21

24

19

25

17

27

Can't say

8

8

8

6

3

8

10

Total

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

On the question of whether Hicks, if found guilty, could be allowed to serve his sentence in Australia, many respondents expressed concern at his treatment in Guantanamo Bay:
“He has suffered enough already, at the very least he should be able to serve his sentence in Australia.”
“He has been unjustly imprisoned for five years in violation of human rights. He should not be kept any longer there and we should bring him back.”
“The American system is far too tough.”
“I don’t think that he will be treated fairly in America - based on what they are currently doing in Guantanamo Bay, the American system is unfair.”

Other respondents said that, because David Hicks’ alleged crime was against America, he should be forced to serve his sentence there:
“He is being charged in a foreign country so he should have to serve there.”
“He did the crime so he should do the time — it was a crime against the US so they can have him.”
“I think that he can serve his sentence where he was arrested - I don't see why we should have to foot the bill to imprison him.”

Iraq
Respondents were asked: “Do you think we should continue to fight in Iraq or bring our forces back to Australia?”

Australia wide

Bennelong

Analysis by Federal Voting Intention

Vietnam*

Iraq

Iraq

Iraq

       

 

Sep

Mar 9/10

Apr 19/20

Feb 14/15

Liberal

ALP

The Greens#

Ind/

Other#

 

1965

2005

2006

2007

 

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

Continue

56

44

32

29

50

16

16

19

Bring them back

28

53

63

64

42

80

79

69

Can’t say

16

3

5

7

8

4

5

12

Total

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

* Asked of all Australians aged 21 and over

Australia wide

Bennelong

Analysis by Sex & Age

Vietnam*

Iraq

Iraq

Iraq

           

 

Sep

1965

Mar 9/10

2005

Apr 19/20

2006

Feb 14/15

2007

Men

Women

18-24#

25-34

35-49

50+

 

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

Continue

56

44

32

29

34

26

15

22

28

37

Bring them back

28

53

63

64

61

66

82

73

68

53

Can’t say

16

3

5

7

5

8

3

5

4

10

Total

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

* Asked of all Australians aged 21 and over

Many respondents said that the Iraq War is a lost cause, and the Australian Government should pull our troops out:
“So many people are dying, we losing more and more people everyday - we're not going to win.”
“I don’t think the west can win in Iraq - the reality is that it is a lost cause and we should not have gone there in the first place.”
“The problem is within the country and sending the more troops would not really help — we’re making things worse.”
“Our presence is merely stirring more trouble.”

Conversely, many respondents said that the situation in Iraq will worsen if our troops leave:
“I think it will create more of a mess if we bring them back - it will not sort out the problem.”
“Terrorism is increasing — if we leave then they would increase more.”
“Withdrawal will be worse for Iraq than remaining there.”
“We made a bloody mess there; walking away from it will just make a bigger mess.”


Industrial Relations
Respondents were asked: “Do you agree or disagree with the industrial relations reforms?”

 

Australia wide

Bennelong

Analysis by Federal Voting Intention

 

October 12/13

April 5/6

February 14/15

The

Ind/

 

2005

2006

2007

Liberal

ALP

Greens#

Other#

 

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

Agree

17

20

26

50

8

10

16

Disagree

49

57

59

26

84

82

66

Can’t say

34

23

15

24

8

8

18

Total

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

 

Australia wide

Bennelong

Analysis by Sex & Age

 

October 12/13

April 5/6

February 14/15

           
 

2005

2006

2007

Men

Women

18-24#

25-34

35-49

50+

 

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

Agree

17

20

26

31

21

20

22

25

30

Disagree

49

57

59

61

58

63

65

68

51

Can’t say

34

23

15

8

21

17

13

7

19

Total

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

Many people who disagree with the industrial relations reforms said they are unfair employees:
“They put workers in a very bad position — they have lost a lot of rights. I feel quite strongly about the issue.”
“The laws are unfair to the least powerful in society.”
“They favour the rich and the powerful.”
“The reforms are nothing more than a tool by which harsh companies can terrorise workers by putting them on low wages and sack them whenever they want. The laws are a tool to destroy unions.”

Others who disagree with the reforms said the new laws do not provide enough balance between employers and employees:
“There’s too much power on the wrong side of the system — employers.”
“Whether it was intentional or not, people who are working are unable to rock the boat and say what they want to say about their jobs. Some employees may not want to push too hard to get things such as overtime and holidays as they might be afraid about losing their job.”
“The laws are taking away protection against employees whose employers have no regard for their wellbeing. What Howard has done is take away 40 years of progress by splitting Australia in two — it is un-Australian.”

Those who agree with the industrial relations reforms cite the greater flexibility the new laws will provide:
“The laws give a lot of flexibility on both sides — the employers and the employees.”
“They give employers and employees a lot more freedom in their decision making.”
“These laws will loosen up the labour market, which has been dominated by the unions for too long.”

Water: Government control
Respondents were told: “Last month Mr Howard announced a $10 billion Federal Government plan to take control of Australia's water resources. The plan includes a proposal to take control of the Murray-Darling River system from the States. At present, some State Governments are reluctant to give control to the Federal Government.”

They were then asked: “In your opinion, should the Federal Government take control of Australia's water resources, or not?”

 

Bennelong

Analysis by Federal Voting Intention

 

Feb 14/15

   

The

Ind/

 

2007

Liberal

ALP

Greens#

Other#

 

%

%

%

%

%

Yes, take control

67

87

54

51

57

No, should not take control

23

9

32

31

34

Can't say

10

4

14

18

9

Total

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

 

Bennelong

Analysis by Sex & Age

 

Feb 14/15

           
 

2007

Men

Women

18-24#

25-34

35-49

50+

 

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

Yes, take control

67

74

61

58

60

68

71

No, should not take control

23

21

24

34

24

21

21

Can't say

10

5

15

8

16

11

8

Total

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

The general consensus among those who say the Federal Government should take control of Australia’s water resources is that it will help avoid bureaucracy among State Governments:
“Being centrally controlled, it will reduce the amount of legislation — it makes sense to give one central body control.”
“Historically, the states have never agreed on anything — their coordination of resources is poor, we have the railways as proof!”
“I think the states will only look after their own interest, especially when we are in drought.”
“It should be federally controlled; otherwise the states tend to look after their own interests, not thinking of the bigger issues like the environment as a whole.”

Respondents who said that the State Governments’ should remain in control of Australia’s water resources are wary of giving the Federal Government too much power:
“The current Government can’t be trusted, although I do like the idea of a federal takeover, it’s just that the Liberals are not worth such a responsibility.”
“Quite often when the Federal Government take over, it ends up being privatised. One day the whole system could end up being privatised.”
“It is giving the Federal Government too much control.”

Howard: Obama comments
Respondents were told: “Earlier this week Mr Howard said that a victory at next year's US election by US Democrat Presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama would be welcomed by terrorists because of his plan to withdraw American troops out of Iraq by March 2008.”

They were then asked: “In your opinion, was Mr Howard right in making these comments, or not?”

 

Bennelong

Analysis by Federal Voting Intention

 

Feb 14/15

   

The

Ind/

 

2007

Liberal

ALP

Greens#

Other#

 

%

%

%

%

%

Yes, right

27

48

12

15

16

No, not right (wrong)

63

36

82

73

81

Can't say

10

16

6

12

3

Total

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

 

Bennelong

Analysis by Sex & Age

 

Feb 14/15

           
 

2007

Men

Women

18-24#

25-34

35-49

50+

 

%

%

%

%

%

%

%

Yes, right

27

29

25

19

30

18

33

No, not right (wrong)

63

66

60

73

56

69

59

Can't say

10

5

15

8

14

13

8

Total

100

100

100

100

100

100

100

# Sample sizes less than 50 should be treated with caution

On the question of whether Prime Minister John Howard was right in condemning the Iraq policy of Presidential hopeful Barack Obama, many respondents said that Mr Howard should have kept his opinion to himself:
“I think one should concentrate on his policies”.
“I don’t think that it is his place to comment on American policy”.
“Because I don’t think he should have involved himself in American politics”.
“He should just let them make their own decisions.”

However, many respondents supported Howard because they support the Iraq War:
“He's the Prime Minister of our country, and we are at war. He is perfectly entitled to his opinion — If we leave Iraq now, all the sacrifices they've made are going to be given to the terrorists”,
“In effect, pulling troops out of Iraq too soon will cause a civil war - they need more support before we can pull out successfully — so he was right in expressing this opinion” and “I don’t think we should withdrawal — the Iraqis need our presence over there.”

These are the main findings of a special telephone Morgan Poll commissioned by Crikey.com.au, which was conducted on the nights of February 14/15, 2007, with 394 Bennelong electors.

Margin of Error:

The margin of error to be allowed for in any estimate depends mainly on the number of interviews on which it is based. The following table gives indications of the likely range within which estimates would be 95% likely to fall, expressed as the number of percentage points above or below the actual estimate. The figures are approximate and for general guidance only, and assume a simple random sample. Allowance for design effects (such as stratification and weighting) should be made as appropriate.

Sample Size

Percentage Estimate

 

40%-60%

25% or 75%

10% or 90%

5% or 95%

500

±4.5

±3.9

±2.7

±1.9

The Morgan Poll accurately predicted that the ALP would win the 2006 Queensland election with a reduced majority (sample 604 electors).

 

The Morgan Poll accurately predicted that the ALP would win the 2006 Victorian election with a reduced majority (sample 956 electors).  The Morgan Poll was also the most accurate on the primary vote of the major parties for the Victorian election.

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